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By Mark Beaumont

Posted on 18/05/09 at 02:05:19 pm

Britpop. It’s become such a dirty word I’m amazed my laptop doesn’t automatically asterisk the vowels. Think ‘punk’ and you instantly picture John Lydon snarling like a Pekingese with piles, think ‘grunge’ and you see a kohl-eyed Cobain, think ‘new rave’ and you envisage a clearly ‘refreshed’ Klaxons waving the Mercury Prize.

But think ‘Britpop’ and the Union Jack guitars, Blur/Oasis feuds and Jarvis arse-waggles are obscured by the detritus. You think of Sleeperblokes and lad mags, the Good Mixer and Chris Evans, Geri’s dress and The Girlie Show. Think ‘Britpop’ and, to the shame of an entire decade, you think “Menswe@r”.

I’m an unrepentant child of Britpop. I was in it from Blur’s ‘British Image No 1’, from ‘Popscene’ and ‘For Tomorrow’, from Suede’s ‘The Drowners’ and The Auteurs’ ‘Showgirl’:

I wore the Jarvo corduroy blazers and the Brett fringe-flop, did the slapping-your-arse-with-a-microphone shimmy across the dancefloors of Camden. In the Blur/Oasis war I was a frontline general for the Albarn Army. I revelled in the fact that, after so much ’80s miserablism, grunge, shoegazing and crusty anarchists bleating on about Thatcher (boo!) and Sainsbury’s (BOOO!), the underground was finally agreeing to enjoy some shameless, tuneful jubilance and feel awwwwwlright for a bit.

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Sadly, it was just that brassy polish, brazen breeziness, lack of ‘loner’ angst and assimilation of chart-friendly ‘pop’ into guitar music that made it easy to mock in its wake. For the last decade I’ve had to endure my musical mum being called a slag. I’ve become a son of the disowned generation.

Then, just as the first clutch of Britpop club nights speckle London with their posters of a V-flicking Jarvis, this week saw the announcement of the first major three-CD Britpop compilation album, entitled ‘Common People’ (out June 8).

At last! A full and proper re-evaluation of one of the greatest scenes in pop history! Then I saw the tracklisting and my heart sank faster than the second Echobelly album. Totally eschewing the talents of the two true Britpop titans, Blur and Oasis, CD1 hints at the problem by including Britpop precursors that had little to do with the movement besides a timely overlap – Black Grape, The Stone Roses, James. By CD2 a rot is beginning to set in; between true Britpop classics such as ‘Common People’, ‘Alright’ and ‘Chasing Rainbows’, creep an army of Britpop pretenders. Northern Uproar? Kula Shaker? Ocean sodding Colour Scene?

Already the gleaming face of Britpop is being smeared in its own fetid effluence, and by CD3 it’s like Karl Marx being shown around Stalin’s Gulag or that bit in Alien: Resurrection where the perfectly cloned Sigourney Weaver alien finds all of the deformed experimental clone Sigourney/aliens in a lab begging “Please kill me…”. Gomez, The Seahorses, Hurricane #1, Stereophonics: all of the worst post-Oasis plodders are lasso’d into the Britpop corral, tainting the ’90s gene pool, feeding Britpop with its own sewage like a kind of musical French cattle farm.

Any hope I had that new listeners might too appreciate the wild pop thrill I once felt for ‘Wake Up Boo!’, ‘Slight Return’, ‘Inbetweener’ or ‘Female Of The Species’ is dashed, since there, fused like a malignant growth on the cheek of a supermodel, sit the godawful monstrosities that sprang from the loins of Noel Gallagher’s guitar and turned the end of the decade into a barren and boring retro-rock desert. Even this supposed celebration and re-evaluation of the era is ruined by the presence of its bastard offspring, dribbling and leering from the attic of the 1990s.

Britpop’s downfall was that its most successful band wasn’t also its epitome. Where Nirvana fairly defined grunge or the Pistols accurately captured punk spirit, the easily imitated rock chug of Oasis never took in the synthetic sexuality of Pulp and Suede, the jaunty jollities of Blur or Supergrass, the flagrant pop hooks of Dodgy or Space.

So Britpop: The Phenomenon must always be associated with the lobbed pint at Knebworth, the thundery stomp of a Gary Glitter steal and the dreary wailing of ‘The Riverboat Song’. None of which, as a true and pure child of Britpop, ever said anything to me about my life. It became a disgraced scene: ‘guitar pop’ a term of abuse, indie good spirits a cause for mockery, ‘Britpop’ a dirty word. So please, I entreat you to give ‘Common People’ a thorough iPod pruning of the effluvium and let Britpop die with dignity.

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jack [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 15:13
if its so easily imitated why has no other band been as good since?
Lee [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 15:18
What are you on about?
HelloJackToad [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 15:30
More joyless whining from overpaid journalists out to piss on everyone's good time. Have you ever heard the expression 'Different strokes for different folks'? Because if you had, you'd shut up about the crap you don't like; treating music like it is consumer product and you have the right to make a complaint if it doesn't work for YOU. Sadly music or any artform is not product. If it doesn't work for you, that doesn't mean it doesn't work full stop. It's subjective and no one is forcing you to look, listen or watch.
The Wolf [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 15:58
Couldn't agree with you more. I'm one of the few people who commented negatively on this when it was a news story amazingly. I loved Britpop. But it was Blur, Suede and Pulp who were exciting. Unfortunately it's all the Oasis loving football lads who think it was OCS, Cast and Stone Roses who made the 90s great. Honestly, it wasn't.
neil [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 16:56
everything is punk. everything is britpop. new rave never existed. fuck off
Sonny-D [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 17:10
To all those complaining - If you don't want his opinion, why read the blog in the first place? And i agree with The Wolf...Oasis are overrated
james [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 17:17
loads of bands have easily imitated the oasis sound, they just never get past the pub scene because nobody respects their steaming pile of excuse for music
me [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 17:31
i never sucedeed in choosing about the oasis/blur thing... i'm definitely a fan of noel gallagher's lyrics. But i have a sort of a crush on coxon's glasses, and him obviously. sorry, gallaghers are gods. ('half the world away', 'rock and roll star', 'songbird', 'lyla', 'supersonic', 'don't look back in anger', 'whatever'???) but on the other hand, theres "girls and boys" and "song2" and "distance left to run" . Hard choice. Are we obliged ? I don't think so. i prefer to think to the "britpop time" about that, music, great bands, and less about 90's mistakes... (that is so to say; boys band.)
Garryboy [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 17:58
Are the likes of Suede and Blur not all middle class shandy boys just like the ilk who 'write' for the NME? 'Nuff said! MAD FER IT!
Reut [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 18:34
I agree with you as a whole, but I don't quite understand what makes you label one band as "really britpop" and the other as "fake shit" other than your personal taste. Okay, so Blur, Pulp, Oasis and Suede were the biggest and greatest bands of the scene - but you can't make a compilation out of just four bands. It seems you think Space and Dodgy are somehow better than Ocean Colour Scene and the question is why? They're all the same decent-bands-who-didn't-influence-anything. The only band of that era I feel doesn't currently receive the recognition they deserve is Shed Seven. ;)
Ben [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 18:51
You're just a fool. New Rave isn't a genre, its a term you geeky hacks at the nme created, and from it a million terrible bands spawned. do everyone a favour, next time a half decent band come through the ranks don't jump on the bandwagon and stick them on the cover, forcing them to quickly rush an album so that they become distinctly average very fast. leave them alone. oh, and wasn't it nme that made the whole rubbish britpop battle anyway, easily "britpops defining moment" oh dear mark, you've made your bed...
Luke [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 19:13
The Stones Roses, Ocean Colour Scene and Oasis are 3 of the best bands of the last 20 years! Much better than Blur and Pulp.
V [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 19:43
oasis back then used to be the best, how can you say they weren't the epitomy of britpop? blur used to be pretty amazing too tho.. always the same dilemma.
fernando [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 20:27
I think all the article is bubbish. Brit pop is one of the best things that happend to pop music. Time will put everybody in its right place.
Jordan [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 21:06
Dodgy?!! Blur?!!! Space?!!! SUEDE?!!! Is this arty farty, lazy journalist for REAL? The ironic thing is this twat has got a slight point. Oasis weren't the sound of britpop. But what this fool doesn't realise is Oasis are MUCH BIGGER than shitey britpop. Oasis are a rock and roll legendary band who you can use in the same sentence as the Beatles, Rolling Stones, the Who and the Sex Pistols. Knebworth is what that era was all about. Because it was the biggest band in the world playing in the biggest gig ever. And for once the biggest were actually the BEST. How many of those bands mentioned are still making number 1 albums today. These art student writers will never understand oasis because they'll never be part of something that special
Will [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 21:14
You don't quite get the point of music journalism/art criticism do you HelloJackToad? If we allow that art is subjective then we have to allow Mark Beaumont his right to voice his viewpoint, even if it conflicts with YOURS. How shit and boring would it be if journalists had to follow your 'different strokes' rule and only write positive things to avoid offending fans of certain bands?
frentury [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 21:27
so the guy doesn't like Oasis-fair enough?Is it big deal to the ones,that do(like me)?Not at all-they have easily made more good music,than ALL the other groups he's mentioned in his article.
Grrr [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 21:34
Whats wrong with Kurt cobain??
[Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 21:39
Isn't it sad the way people define music by image and appearance. judge with your ears mate." think of britpop and you think of menswear". wat the fudge does that have to do with anything. twat
Nav [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 21:42
Oh great. What a surprise, yet another typical middle-class "indie-kid" rant blaming Oasis for the demise of Britpop. Dude, get over it man. Blur, Suede, Pulp - you can't take anything away from those bands of course they had their great albums and great tunes. But accept it - they were all overshadowed by the underdog. The working class stood up and took the crown that was rightfully theirs. Look at their legacy and what they've achieved. Don't even talk about who won Blur vs Oasis...it was a competition between two shit pop songs...Oasis won the war, they took over the world, they're from Burnage...accept it. I don't even like OCS and I agree The Stone Roses crashed and burned but don't slag off the songwriter who you must thank for making British music get recognition. Don't even get me started on New Rave...what a load of bollocks
murray [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 22:16
u have some good points about brit pop even if the hole article feels a bit irrelvent but nme needs to stop this new rave rubbish its been long enougth it dosnt exsist it never did and you constantly even mentioning it just adds to the confusion about all the crap internet trends that have supposdly been so promenent through out this decade but which never actually exsisted in any real form
Matthew Regan [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 22:20
My insecure friend, almost 14 years on you still seem very sour that Albarn's Army lost the war and Bonehead's Band led the way. Sure, Oasis' music was more simplistic than was Blur's, and perhaps their lyrics less loaded than Pulp's. But regardless of that, they certainly defined the moment, didn't they? Millions of people latched onto Oasis, while hundreds of thousands latched onto the others. Is your opinion more accurate than those of millions of people? And why was Britpop all about music, anyway? It was a zeitgeist, and, perhaps to Noel's chagrin, the Gallaghers' attitudes were just as important to those millions of people as was their music. It perfectly encapsulated the spirit of the good times. Just like your attitude perfectly encapsulates the spirit of the shit times. Idiot.
[Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 22:34
There are only about 5 good britpop bands at maximum, that's hardly Oasis's fault.
American Luke [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 22:35
If Oasis ruined Britpop that is fine with me. Oasis were the only great band from that "scene". Calling it a scene is braindead anyway. Beatles, Animals, Stones were a scene. BritPop was a bunch of upbeat sounding songs released around the same time. Verve are Great, Blur's alright, MSP's and Supergrass are good...But Oasis gave you all the leader you needed. It's a shame we didn't get it over here. Oasis are the best and I don't like football.
Fishski [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 22:44
The only decent Britpop bands were Blur, Suede and Pulp. But I don't see how you can pick out Kula Shaker and OCS in such a way. Britpop pretenders they may be but both were the epitome of the times and classic examples of why so much of it was abject shite. It's a Britpop compilation, if it's representative of the scene there will be plenty of crap on it. Also as a point of order, how you can name check the Klaxons in practically the same breath as Lydon and Kobain is beyond me.
Mark Beaumont [Member] //May 18 2009 at 23:00
I'm loving the fact that I seem to have re-sparked the old Blur vs Oasis debate again and that there's still some life left in it so far down the line, but before we all get sidetracked I should point out that while I've taken many an opportunity to have a go at Oasis in my time, this isn't one of them - I'm knocking the bands that came in their wake and, by being included on this compilation, are giving Britpop a bad name. That Oasis' sound didn't epitomise the era is no fault of theirs - they're a rock'n'roll band, not a pop band - but it did leave the scene without one iconic band that defined the whole thing, hence (I think) the lack of respect shown to what appears to be a sprawling and undefinable mess of a scene.
clonmacart [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 23:09
What a load of Tosh! Noel Gallagher freely admits that they were never part of the 'True Britpop' scene (Suede,Blur,Sleeper ,et al) It was the NME who punted them in there....theres alot of people (Alburn & this writer included) who are bitter when the attention upped roots from camden to knebworth. If anyones to blame for Hurricane #1,starsailor etc its the lazy record companies who saw a quick buck to be made....blaming Oasis makes as much sense as blaming RUN DMC for commercial Hip\Hop like Akon or 50 cent!
Jack [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 23:11
Pulp's 'Different Class' outshines everything Oasis have ever released combined. Not a single bad track, and I can't think of many other albums that can boast that.
Ryan [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 23:13
Oasis and blur made music what it is today most english indie bands when askded what music they listened to growing etc will give reference to oasis and maybe blur !!!!!!
Chris [Visitor] //May 18 2009 at 23:48
What is this bloke about, there are so many people that think its cool to slate oasis because there successful and people come out with shit that radiohead and other crap are better, really? what are you chatting about! Oasis and Blur where by far the best bands on the 90's because they gave the public what they wanted and thats what all the successful bands like the beatles and the stones previously had done. If Oasis were shit they would still be the biggest band with the best following in the Uk, and if Blur were crap nobody would care about them reforming. Utter shit! As for say the Stone roses were crap , you clearly dont know what your on about.
nancy [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 00:10
Blur ftw
alex [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 01:08
looking back it seemed everyone band and every record label post wonderwall seemed to think ahh thats the formula that will sell shit loads and you got all these bands trying to write anthems-embrace comes to mind.theres a reason oasis are still around and massive and all these other bands are not. for the record supergrass were my fav brit pop band. as soon you you get a scene you get loads of filth going with it. nirvana were the only great grunge band-teenage angst has paid off well.
Pal [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 01:59
Oasis is still amazing
Danni [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 03:32
The title of this blog doesn't match the content (so i'm a nerd) but did Oasis kill Britpop no. Was it good? Yes. America was slackin anyway so the brits do what the brits do best. They made awesome music.
HelloJackToad [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 07:52
Uh, Will, I'm talking about people that state their OPINIONS as if they are FACT. Stop gargling bong water, it rots yer brain cells.
Chris [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 10:27
Mark - this screed means you're in your mid-30s now - aren't you a bit old for writing for NME now, surely? Actually I know for a fact how old you are as we studied our NCTJ together...there you go folks, he's a proper journalist and everything.
Chris [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 10:34
Oh and anyone who wants a more erudite take on the Britpop phenomenon is better directed to Jon Harris's excellent Britpop!: Cool Britannia and the Spectacular Demise of English Rock
Wallamanage [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 10:35
I didn't finish reading the article. Want to know why? No-one and I mean NO-ONE slags off the second Echobelly LP. On is the best album ever recorded by anybody ever. I'm shocked and appalled at this analogy and am hereby boycotting all future NME articles.
TheWolf [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 10:47
It seems a lot of people are actually responding to this article's headline without actually reading it! No one's slating Oasis, just the bands that record companies signed as a result of Oasis's success. 1992-1996 were great years for British music but anything that happened after that weren't really Britpop. By 1997 we had 'Blur' and 'This Hardcore' calling time on the scene. While on the other hand we had 'Be Here Now' ushering in all the shite this writer criticses. The year also gave us 'Ladies and Gentlemen...', 'OK Computer' and 'Urban Hymns' which is what led to the next movement in British music. It is a massive shame that those wonderful years can be clouded by all the rubbish on the aforementioned compilation. and to clarify my previous point re: The Stone Roses, their one great album came out in the 80s and they didn't actually contibute very much to the 90s in terms of output. Finally, I can't believe that people like Nav are trying to make this some sort of class war. Your argument falls very flat when you make out Pulp are middle class because they're not stupid (an attitude which is another hang-up from what this article criticises!)
[Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 10:49
the problem with britpop was there were a lot of grest songs, but only 4 great bands (pulp, suede, blur and oasis) the ''scene'' as a whole was pretty much a joke really, made up by the amazing brains at the nme. it's happening all again now with this new rave bollocks. i very much doubt in 10 years time we'll all be debating how the klaxons killed new rave!!
Me [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 11:53
Why are you moaning about something NME created??? Oasis have always said they were never part of the britpop scene, you put them in there. New Rave is a dirty word which means nothing. You're just comming up with new genres to feed the elitists who like to think they know more than everyone else. This is a bitter article full of old stereotypes, im and Oasis fan, I like Blur, dont like football. Alot of beatles fans like oasis, paul mccartney included.
Scully [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 14:57
Who buys compilation CD's anyway?
swarfiga [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 15:06
blur, verve, suede, pulp, oasis ....and all the other bands you mentioned started makeing MUSIC. they didn´t plugged in the instruments n said-"yeah lets do BritPop". YOU labelled them britpop to make the music more comparable. the british press builds bands up just to destroy them after a while- thank god oasis overlived! BeHereNow was lifemusic, feeling alive music but you decided it wasn´t cool anymore cos oasis were too big. you shifted the focus onto the miserable travisradioheadcoldplaywhatsoeverferdinandchiefsshit. thanks that your focus never lay on KASABIAN as on arctic monkeys or franzferdinand. now they´ll bring out the West Ryder n smash Britpop in ya faces. rock n roll!
Ross Thomas [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 15:40
In summary of Britpop 1) Oasis - goodtime music for idiots, good tunes, rubbish lyrics, good singer 2) Blur - Arty for the sake of it soulless music in the main but clever and individual. Best musicians. 3) Pulp - Best lyrics, best frontman but fizzled out a bit early. 4) Supergrass - For my money the best Britpop band, the tunes of Oasis and the experimentalism of Blur but without the headline grabbing antics. 5) Cast - Poor mans Oasis 6) Elastica - Poor mans Blur 7) Bluetones - Very forgettable 8) Kula Shaker - Nonsense 9) OCS - Poor mans Paul Weller 10) All the others - RUBBISH
'Grass Fan [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 16:06
Supergrass were the best Britpop band by far. The evidence? They are still going strong with the same line-up, they have not made a bad album, they always looked the best of all those bands, they were funny in interviews, they are awesome live. Why do they always get forgotten? I liked Blur and Pulp, Oasis were too much to bear back then but I like Liam's voice and you can't deny their tunes. However, Supergrass really were the band that had it all for me.
Graham [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 16:08
Think you are missing the point here. Britpop was a tag placed upon bands who never wanted it but were named as being such by the press. Ocean Colour Scene were a modern day Small Faces and done more for the mod revival than Oasis and Blur put together. The fact that OCS guitarist Steve Cradock and bass player Damon Minchella play in Weller's band pretty much proves that. Dont you think? So stop being so pessimistic The 90's produced some fantastic music and this compilation has been put together to remind us of that. Oh and by the way Riverboat Song one of the highlights. What a tune !
Dico [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 16:10
Well, I think Britpop isn't a genre, it's a cultural movement, which was come up because of the overwhelmed bored for american music. Oasis/Blur, Pulp, Suede, Elastica, Dodgy, for me they're just like the founding fathers of what happen today in British music industries, they left a legacy, they give local bands encouragement to make a good music based on each band idealism. And Britpop will stil alive as long as we appreciate it. FYI, in my country, there are still so many people singing out loud the songs of the founding fathers of britpop, until the generations before (smiths, joyD/NewOrder, The Cure, Clash,StoneRoses) and after it. We worship British music scene as a whole....
Vistor [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 16:56
NME 'murdered' britpop by creating and fueling the whole blur v Oasis war. What bugs NME is that they failed to destory Oasis in the process.
Joe Malik [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 17:08
Ha ha - what I love about this is that nearly everyone seems to have missed the point - Mark Beaumont included - and the whole blog, comments etc has decended into a 'my band is/was better than your band' indie-kid cat fight. What Mark should have discussed is that despite Britpop and its relative highs and lows (some great music but ultimately 'indie' twisted and killed by mass media and major label hit seeking), the true damage of Noel's legacy is the seeming lack of insipiration and eclectism in 'indie' guitar bands following in Oasis' mighty but tiresome shadow. To make it simple (cos I know most of you are pretty thick judging by your comments here), Noel rattles on about The Beatles, Paul Weller, The Pistols, The La's etc etc etc whereas the bands he was supposedly handed the baton from - The Roses & Mondays used to talk about funk, soul, hip-hop, psychedelia (not just Sgt f**kin Pepper too), krautrock, house etc and their music was generally a superlative result of these influences. Bands like the Stone Roses tried to encourage and emulate a wide array of musical tastes into their artistic mission, not just fly the flag for white-boy indie rock and roll which is what Noel seems to have interpreted from their work and passed on to his contemporary imitators. Also, every band in Manchester is now tarnished with the problem of having to in some way be comparible to Oasis - either in sound, attitude, look or the singers bloody name - to be representative of 'Manchester music' as far as the media is concerned - not to mention a city half full of idiotic Liam clones mooching around and acting like dicks in bars and clubs because 'that's how a Manc behaves are kid!' - (ps I'm from Manchester so if I wanna make a sweeping generalisation I will - just come here to an indie club on a Friday night and you'll see!). Manchester music (and indeed 'indie' as a whole), up until Oasis was always about imagination, creativity and taste. Now, the majority of successful bands seem to be dull, visionless boys with guitars and a couple of cocky soundbites. I read an interview with the View the other day where the guitarist said something like, 'people think we only listen to one sort of music but I'm into everything from The Beatles to The Clash..'. Well, a stylistic jump of about 3 moves there. Nice one (are kid)!
Chris [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 17:11
It's a shame they failed, for then we wouldn't have had to endure seven nigh-on identical albums from Oasis...the least imaginative band in the history of popular music.
Chris B [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 17:56
Nav, can you explain to me how Pulp were not a working class underdog? Songs such as Mile End should be a fairly heavy hint that they were just this. Their best selling album was, unlike many other bands not one of their first efforts. They released Separations and IT years before and were shrowded in obscurity. I think you need to reconsider who you define as the 'underdogs'.
Chris B [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 18:03
I should add, also that I agree about the comments previously made about Supergrass. They are easily the most underrated band to come out of the era. They have consistently produced top quality, varied and original albums. Whisky and Green Tea is as good a song as Allright but I doubt many of the Oasis lovers have even heard it. Road to Rouen and Diamond Hoo Haa Man (their last two albums; again I don't expect Oasis fans to know this) are brilliant and massively underrate and underplayed. It's a sad state of affairs that I still hear the same songs played in certain clubs. I guess that goes to show how the Britpop era simply pushed supposedly Independent music into the mainstream!
Luke [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 18:39
The Good Mixer haha, full of dirty indie kids who look up to Doherty!
noel gallaghers eyebrows [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 18:42
are you seriously suggesting that the 90s should be remembered for the boo radleys, space, the bluetones and sleeper and not oasis? its a pity that critics and, far more importantly, the masses couldnt disagree with you more. or not.
JC [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 18:46
Well, didn't you lot push Oasis on us all and tell us they were great? Their music hasn't changed since Be Here Now... but people keep buying it and NME keeps telling them to.
Luke [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 18:46
Half way through the 'article' it seems to make sense, saying that most bands, because Oasis were so big, were compared to them. But then it gets lost, saying that Oasis are guitar pop and boring. Oasis have made the best/recognisable anthems of the past 20 years, and whether you like it or not, they were the biggest band in the UK 15 years ago and still are now! P.S.. The Riverboat Song is a great tune and Ocean Colour Scene should be looked upon as a legendary band.
BB [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 19:22
There's so much class-baiting when it comes to Oasis. Not to mention how it gives most music fans an excuse to bash casual music fans. I think there was a sense of majesty about Oasis in the mid 90's which hasn't been matched since. I also think there are at least ten Oasis songs which are absolutely, transcendently indelible. Which is more than Supergrass. I don't think Oasis are to blame for the death of the poppy, fey bands which defined "Britpop" before they did. Suede's third album stank and Blur recorded The Great Escape.
[Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 21:29
The only band worth listening to is Oasis, there isn't any other music that's worth hearing. Any other bands? Who cares. Oasis are the best ever
Giles [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 22:13
Britpop died when politicians looking for an 'accessible image' brought members of Oasis and Blur into the political spotlight. A photograph of a smarmy Tony Blair shaking hands with Noel Gallagher is enough to dig a 6ft grave for the fad. It's like if your mum started playing air guitar to 'What's The Story Morning Glory' in the front room. You immediately turn your back to it and never look back.
Scott Eldo [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 23:02
The Media created 'Brit Pop'. Get over it dude, Oasis have a place, Blur have a place. Sounds to me like you just love Morissey a bit too much....
Visitor [Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 23:36
What does he expect from a Britpop compilation then? Dodgy and Boo Radleys certainly won´t fill 3 Cds...
[Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 23:45
Oasis last two albums were acutally pretty good and differant. They did have a shit patch in the middle but you cant deny they have written some of the greatest songs.
[Visitor] //May 19 2009 at 23:46
Why havnt NME got a news story about liams latest twitter??? He calls tom clark a little fucker!
Dean [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 00:38
'britpop' was a term created by the media - so now they slag it off!! there were a lot of crap bands from the era and there were a lot of good bands - just like now the good - oasis, blur, supergrass, OCS, bluetones, charlatans
Aggie [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 01:15
Uhm...this is opinion journalism, so of course is subjective, so fuck off if you dont like what he has to say, he's not brainwashing you whatsoever...
j matthews [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 01:24
middle class art critic. leave the decent music like oasis to normal people.
Mark Beaumont [Member] //May 20 2009 at 01:42
@ Giles - I think you're right, I'd agree that was the moment Britpop died its death, but then I never saw Britpop as lasting beyond 1996, after the 'pop' part gave way to accept anything that was 'brit', as this compilation does.

@ Noel Gallagher's Eyebrows - you've misread the piece - what I'm saying is that I'd prefer Britpop to be remembered for Space, The Bluetones, The Boo Radleys and Sleeper than The Seahorses, Hurricane #1, The Stereophonics and Gomez.

@ everyone else - I don't write the headlines to these blogs, if you think I'm slagging off Oasis here please read it again. Thanks
jeff [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 03:22
Oasis changed my life for the better. I've never been as excited about music as when I first discovered Oasis. Long may they reign...
name [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 03:31
Every genre of music that at one point is brilliant and inspiring, naturally becomes bastardized. It's life and has happened to all great genres. Nirvana influenced Puddle Of Mudd... but you can't hate them for doing that. Talented people inspire untalented yet ironically ambitious people. If you want to hate anybody, hate the people who created the compilation CD's, the "tastemakers," they set the boundaries for the genre, and they are the ones who market it like boxes of cereal. Oasis have every right to be known as a great Brit-pop band, it's not their fault that they over shadow other great and brilliant bands. You obviously were one of those who hated them in the 90's as well. Noel Gallagher did what he did, never apologized for any of it, never cared what people like you thought of him and some.. a lot of people liked it. That in itself is pure rock and roll. If you don't like them then fuck off, that's just your opinion. Don't publish an article on the NME and say they weren't a worthy band of the Brit-pop generation.
Geoffrey [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 05:36
As an Aussie, I am lucky to have been able to enjoy the best of Britpop from a distance. I always purposely avoided the blur/oasis war thing and just enjoyed the music, for me Blur and the Stone Roses were my faves, and I still enjoy the music. I think it has to be said that the early oasis canon is probably the peak of the period, even if they got repetitive later. Enjoy what you enjoy, everyone will have a different opinion which makes life the more interesting.
Rock N Roll Star [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 08:38
Oasis shit all over everyone then and they shit all over everyone now ! Space ! lol lol
Ed [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 09:21
An excellent piece from Mark Beaumont. I read mark as saying not that Oasis were bad but that they weren't all that the movement was about. Those first two albums were amazing. But the scene increasingly became about traditional sounding rock that happened to be there in the right place at the right time. Bands like Blur, Elastica, Suede, Space to pick but four were distinctive in their sound. Blur continued to evolve - and didn't have a maxim of 'If It ain't broke, don't fix it' which is not what makes good music. Oasis were never the most oiginal of bands but they had attitude and great songs. Unfortunately - and Nirvana and Green Day have suffered from a similar problem, they caused a tsunami of imitators who didn't innovate, just copied and produced rubbish. There was also increasingly 'laddism' of Loaded magazine and the like, which increasingly attempted to make it okay to be beer-swilling, sexist,anti-intellectual louts. That really is perhaps the worst legacy of britpop.
[Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 09:50
Whoever forgets The Charlatans can fuck right off. Still going strong, survivors of baggy and britpop!
Fin [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 10:34
Mark, I agree wholeheartedly with a lot of what you said! Stuff everyone who's having a go because you're having a go at Oasis and Stereophonics! The thing is though, every musical period is remembered for the lowest common denominator - the band that appealed not only to music fans, but non-music fans too. That's why people celebrate the banal. Oasis are exceptionally simple. Coldplay another. Not neccesarily bad bands, just so inoffensive non-music fans love them. (Actually, I have quite a few Oasis albums, but anyway...) My generation will forever be associated with the pop music of the time (which is all tuneless gangsters and soulless prostitutes), but I revel in the fact that 10 years from now I'll be one of the select few who's musical memories were shaped by bands regular punters never even heard of. Most of my mates weren't influenced by Death From Above 1979, Biffy Clyro pre-Puzzle, Foals, Beck, LCD Soundsystem....... It's what sets true music fans apart.
Ramsey [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 10:50
What is this ? Another moany & unsatisfied, "the angriest journalist" that NME had for unsuccesful agenda back in the 90's? Dear Mr. Beaumont, if you'd prefer Britpop remembered for Space, The Bluetones, The Boo Radleys or other dead & uninspired pop band rather then Stereophonics (great band !!!) or OCS (another great band !!!) then you & other journalists not just Brit journalist but as a whole shouldn't start make people confused about the whole thing. It's all about music, it's not about what is Brit and what is not, or what is cool and what is not. Oasis murdered Britpop allright, because millions of people are enjoy & inspired by their music & people not interested on some cheesy & uninspired pop music that NME or other Brits journalist embrased about. And try to make a fair judgment about music that has brought by new bands will you ?
[Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 11:36
Sometimes I think english reviewers got nothing to do.
Jimmy [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 11:48
The man speaks the truth. I was always a big Oasis fan but I never filed them alongside Suede, Pulp and Blur. It was a bit of a mistake that they were ever classified like that. Someone messed up there.
Dirty Ego [Visitor] //May 20 2009 at 13:44
Hate to break it to you Mark, but you weren't a child of Britpop. How old were you in 94? unless britpop happened in your mid teen years, then you're views on it are merely those of an outsider. There was much to loath about Britpop (the name for a start) - but for a 'child' of that era, the music would be a soundtrack to their most formative years. First spot, first kiss, first tug, first broken heart, first night puking up cider in the park. It was the first music they actually 'heard' in the sense that it stired something inside of them. For anyone else who was into their twenties when britpop came around - you can have your views on it, and probably had some damn good times with your hands down some girls pants while fucking Terrorvision played in the background, but you werent a child of it, and thus your views remain that of an outsider, looking in. Now bury the britpop bone and get on with slagging something much more worthy off. Like Shitpop. (Start with the Kaiser Chiefs please).
henry tetlow [Visitor] //May 21 2009 at 08:43
this era (mid to late 90's) produced some of the best albums ever made in my opinion. Moseley Shoals & Marchin Already - OCS, Definitely Maybe & (What's The Story?)Morning Glory - Oasis, Wild Wood & Stanley Road - Paul Weller, Tellin' Stories & Us and Us only -The Charlatans, I should Coco & In It For The Money - Supergrass, Word Gets Around - Stereophonics, Liquid Skin & Bring It On - Gomez, Glow - Reef, Expecting To Fly -The Bluetones, Maverick A Strike - Finley Quaye.
Oh my [Visitor] //May 23 2009 at 06:06
@henry tetlow: excepting one or two, I think that list might be the soundtrack to my idea of hell, and neatly collects some of the most guilty proponents of the kind of wretched grey slop that chocked out every last ounce of the starry-eyed hopeful magic that was the lifeblood of the true scene. It sounds like guestlist to the kind of TFI Friday episode that Satan would compile and reserve for only the most guilty to view. Some of the best albums ever made? Fuck.
henry tetlow [Visitor] //May 24 2009 at 18:18
fair play to yer - wouldn't be good if everyone liked the same stuff
Kate Wellham [Visitor] //May 26 2009 at 11:19
Does this mean it's ok to love Space again? My life wasn't worth living between Spiders and now because of the sheer amount of stick I got. At last I dare even write my full name alongside my undying love for them.
Liam (my name) [Visitor] //June 9 2009 at 07:59
What's funny about this period is that nobody ever mentions other great albums that were produced along with britpop (ie Bends, stanley road.) I really like Oasis, I don't think their music has aged one day since the first time I put it on the cd player. I burned all my old britpop cds for my young nephew and he hated every britpop band except pulp and oasis. Blur he said, sounded "very nineties and gay."
Annette [Visitor] //July 23 2009 at 16:02
I love this article. Made me remember the 90ies again.

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