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Jay-Z: 'Noel Gallagher's views on hip hop were archaic'

Jigga says his Glastonbury 2008 appearance was akin to winning his first Grammy

Jay-Z has said that Noel Gallagher's views on him headlining Glastonbury in 2008 showed up the former Oasis guitarist's "archaic" stance on hip hop.

Speaking on BBC One's flagship political programme The Andrew Marr Show, Jay-Z explained that when he took to the stage at Worthy Farm after his well-documented verbal spat with Gallagher it felt like winning a Grammy award.

"That was like winning the first Grammy for me. It was one of those times where , you know…almost like knocking the door down," he told Marr.

"Noel Gallagher, I think he perpetuated the old way of thinking. We don't think like that, or listen to music like that [now]. On my iPod is The Beatles, Jay-Z, Kings Of Leon, Lil Wayne, Grizzly Bear, Arctic Monkeys. I listen to a diverse arrangement of music, and I think that how kids listen to music now."

Elsewhere in the interview, Jay-Z said that Gallagher's criticism of him being chosen to headline Glastonbury didn't go down well because the general public didn't agree with him.

"It was almost like the people were saying "No, we want that to happen. That’s the natural progression. We like rap, we like rock. We like everything. And it was just that last…that archaic thinking that was in the way of this festival."

The rapper went on to say that musicians like Gallagher need to embrace change rather than shun it, stating: "If we believe that a thing that started should be held forever I'd still be a slave, right? It'd still be in slavery. Things change and the world changes and I think it's best to embrace change."
 

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HeliumHeels 

Sep 20, 2009

For the love of god, shut the hell up already Jay-Z.

Rob BRFC 

Sep 20, 2009

back in 1994 when a tory government were last in power and oasis made their first and last good album i scoffed when Damon Albarn called Oasis 'Quoasis', but 15 sorry years on, with oasis having churned out dross upon dross upon pitiful dross i have to say he was bang on the money.I ahd the misfortune to be given a ticket to see oasis at City of manchester stadium and they were like their own tribute act. the crowd cheered for anything from 1994 but pretty much ignored anything else they played. i felt a bit sorry for them if truth be known. not that they really deserve it. The only thing we can actually thank Liam for is bringing about the end. It was a mercy killing.

mucky_finger 

Sep 20, 2009

gallagher was right! sure, embrace change. but not when change is shitty! some are only using the "music" to bragg on about their bitches and cars and bling...wtf? they even use music to "diss" other people and i think thats what noel was getting at.

Problematique 

Sep 20, 2009

Jay-Z is on his own iPod? Somehow that just feels weird...

emperor3d 

Sep 21, 2009

As much as I love Noel Gallagher (I have a rare Oasis coin, holler!), I kinda agree with everything Jay-Z has said. Nobody -- NOBODY -- can refute the fact that Jay-Z is probably the most powerful/influential artist in North American music. He's also Oprah rich. I think the biggest issue was some peoples' unwillingness to see a Hip-Hop artist headline a festival which has deep roots in Rock/Indie. Fair enough, change takes patience. Regardless, as much as I like the man's music, Jay-Z's incarnation of Wonderwall was shit. Play on.

Slip kid (2nd generation) 

Sep 21, 2009

You'd have thought Jay-Z would be over it by now, not that he doesn't have a point unfortunately. Noel's comments were inappropriately but predictably luddite! There is no reason at all why Glastonbury shouldn't embrace an eclectic direction in its artists. This is a healthy thing - it has to be and change does have to happen. I don't think Noel was defending us from the 'lyrical outrages' of hip-hop, or its (stereotypically viewed) audience. Did Noel really think that Pilton Farm would be invaded by gangs of blinged up G's? I don't think so. You have to understand the bloated sense of entitlement the man had before recent events have acted as a well deserved grounding. I think it was more the fact that Oasis had an album due out in August or September 2008 and 'expected' to be handed the headlining slot on a silver platter. Unfortunately, they blew that chance in 2003 (or 4, memory serves me less well these days) when they bored everyone rigid with a half-arsed 'comeback' gig that was marred by a shoddy, dull performance because 'we had a ding dong backstage' - history repeating? I suggest that anyone who thinks Noel was right should watch the Glastonbury movie and check out the breadth of vision the festival originally had before it became a Z-list celebrity indiepoprock-fest. Sure, you won't see hip hop in the 70s but you will see its equivalent in artists like Lou Rawls (a black poet, setting socially concious words to rhythmic folk music - hmm). Music shouldn't be about borders or genres and we really need to ditch this ridiculous football team mentality that Noel and co (and the media) brought into being with chart wars, britpop battles and the 'who's side are you on then?' attitude. It's funny he didn't slag Eavis off for having the turgid europop kitsch of Lady GaGa on this year. Ahh, but she's white!Look at it this way - if Noel was supposed to be carrying on the baton from the Stone Roses (as he has proclaimed on various occasions), could you imagine Ian Brown or Mani ever critisising hip-hop or black music or discouraging the notion of a culturally and racially eclectic festival? Wise up or shut down!ps (It should have been Public Enemy instead of Jay-Z though, sorry Jigga!)pps (Rob BRFC, I too was at the 30000 strong kareoke session at the city ground and those are 2 hours of my life I'll NEVER get back).

filfil 

Sep 21, 2009

Ah really? If you have your heard Noel's music, it's obvious that Noels views on rock music are also archeaic.

Beatle_Matt 

Sep 21, 2009

Noel said that he likes hip-hop but that Hip-Hop wasn't a good fit for the Glasto festival main stage. ...and he was spot on.

MyShout 

Sep 21, 2009

@Slip kid (2nd generation): What does racism have to do with it? What does "slavery" have to do with hip-hop? As for Noel, he has on sveral occasions stated he doesn't like modern hip-hop because of its lyrical contact, and that he finds it disrespectful to women. Check your facts before you make such ridiculous assumptions. As for Jay-Z (and women), nice vid of him on YouTube slapping a woman. Maybe Noel is right about him!

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