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Rolling Stones' manager derides The Verve

Andrew Loog Oldham jokes about the 'Bitter Sweet Symphony' 'steal'

Andrew Loog Oldham has derided The Verve over their use of a Rolling Stones sample in their 1997 classic 'Bitter Sweet Symphony'.

The legendary former manager of The Rolling Stones joked to Uncut that he has bought "a pretty presentable watch strap" with the royalties that he has earned from the song.

"They [Mick Jagger and Keith Richards] have the watch and I have a pretty presentable watch strap. That's my little piece," he told our sister title.

'Bitter Sweet Symphony' uses an Andrew Oldham Orchestra recording of 'The Last Time' for its orchestral hook, and was the subject of a legal challenge by The Rolling Stones shortly after its release.

Loog Oldham, Mick Jagger and Keith Richards have since received all of the royalty payments from the song, after it was successfully argued that although The Verve had negotiated to use a sample, they had used "too much".

"As for Richard Ashcroft, well, I don't know how an artist can be severely damaged by that experience. Songwriters have learned to call songs their children, and he thinks he wrote something. He didn't. I hope he's got over it. It takes a while," Loog Oldham added.

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Oct 8, 2008

what a tit.

mojo_pin 

Oct 8, 2008

What a arrogant wanker .

Brentmeister 

Oct 8, 2008

There's a whole song behind the 'sample' that Jagger, Richards and certainly not Loog Oldham didn't write. So to say "he thinks he wrote something. he didn't...get over it" is a little hypocritical when a guy who has probably never written a song in his life is joking about the royalties he has picked up for it.

DaveIndieBoy 

Oct 8, 2008

ALO wants to get over it... Dickie Ashcroft and the Verve made it the great song it is

davetherave 

Oct 8, 2008

Andrew Loog Oldham is a fuckin prick.

FreddyNietzsche 

Oct 8, 2008

This might be true but still is kind of tacky to be mentioning it, makes him look like it´s that song was the only thing he ever "did".

erictame 

Oct 8, 2008

Guy sounds like a bit of a douche bag. Sorta like the Stones themselves. How they can justify taking every penny from the sale of that massive song boggles everyone's mind but theirs. Well, to be sure, I'm sure it boggles their mind, too- but instead of doing the human thing and agreeing on a partnership, they'd rather use all available "law" to pile more guilt onto themselves in return for more profits. Can you say sellout? "Rock n roll lawyers" oughta be a contradiction in terms... but the Stones use it to its fullest extent.

Willy Plonka 

Oct 8, 2008

Thats nice Oldham. I suppose you have forgotton about the liberties that Jagger and Richards took lifting and borrowing from the likes of all those impovrished blues guitarists from the 40's and 50's. Twat.

Ghvinianidzigol 

Oct 8, 2008

The hookline of that song is a sample of an orchestral version that would otherwise have long been forgotten. But the songs lyrics, the chords, the rest of the arrangement, most importantly its message and sentiment is all Verve. This song means so much to so many people but to Oldham, who should be proud and grateful to be connected to it and who we would not have heard of in the last 15 years were it not for "Bittersweet Symphony" - it's just a watch. What a materialistic wanker! If he really believed the Verve were not right to earn the royalties, he should have done the decent thing and given his share to charity. Surely he has no right to lay claim on 100 % of what is possibly the greatest song of the 90s. Pure evil!!!

A Northern Soul 

Oct 8, 2008

Andrew, are you still talking about that? Trying to justify your existence? Let's review your career:1. You failed as an artist, so you latched on to the Stones2. You made an orchestral album3. You wrote an ABBA book.Now why on earth do you think your opinion is relevant in ANY way?

Lucky Woman 

Oct 9, 2008

The Stones and their manager should be made to pay those royalties to The Staple Singers whose song "This Maybe The Last Time" was stolen from in the first place. Check it out on youtube, you'll see how similar it is to the Stones version 'The Last Time' . Then listen for any similarities between The Stones 'The Last Time' and The Verve's 'Bitter Sweet Symphony' - there aren't any, yet Jagger and Richards get the credits for the song without writing a word of it. Pure greed, it's sickening.

chubbyfacejohn 

Dec 8, 2008

But the songs lyrics, the chords, the rest of the arrangement, most importantly its message and sentiment is all Verve.I definitely agree with that. I think that this message though is actually Richard Ashcroft alone. The rest of the arrangement was Chris Potter for the rest of the string arrangement and Nick McCabe for guitar.So to say "he thinks he wrote something. he didn't...get over it" is a little hypocritical when a guy who has probably never written a song in his life is joking about the royalties he has picked up for it.Well said. :DI am still grateful for Andrew Loog Oldham's orchestral version of that song and for Simon Jones for having picked up the CD in an Oxfam shop. The Last Time has got a different feeling to it and I think this is the important thing. The Stones song is as good as it is because of its great lead guitar... It is my favourite Stones song... But Bitter Sweet Symphony has got such an important message, the music and the lyrics are equally important.

mbe3204m 

Feb 8, 2009

what is going on with this band? why no news since October? thought they were going to be touring the States?

cashback paper or plastic 

Apr 24, 2009

They cheated the boys. When permit is sought and given and a work remade then the remade work has its own copyright protection which is seperate from the original copyright. TRUE..If I was you guys I would firstly SUE THEPANTS OFF THE LAWYER that gave you S--t advice [who was probably on the take..happens alot see Sophia Stewarts - the mother of the matrix case!] Then I would SUE ROLLINGSTONE for theft as your version has its own rights. Thirdly I would sue NIKE and VAUXALL for buying[aiding and abeiting?] a stolen good.They can only sell it if they had the right to do so. Dunno what you signed mate but they owe you money.Proverbs 6v30 - 31.P.s Was someone saying that the original of the Oldham s version done by the STaples Singers? am sure that that was stolen from them given the bad period of the 60s.. so if I were you I would even deny any copyright infringment from OLDHAM and allege it to the STAPLES SINGER the original owners.Cashback paper or plastic

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