"When we see people like yourself fawning over Donald Trump, then we feel the need to stand up and say something"
Reverend & The Makers‘ Jon McClure clashed with Good Morning Britain host Piers Morgan on the show this morning, during a debate over Taylor Swift‘s recent political comments. See footage of their debate below.
This week, Swift made headlines when she broke her political silence to lend her support to the Democrats in the upcoming US midterm elections in the name of human rights.
McClure, who is often vocal about matters of politics within music (and previously challenged Morgan to a boxing match), was invited onto Good Morning Britain to debate whether politics has a place in popular music.
“Firstly, I don’t think being political puts you off an artist,” said McClure. Addressing Morgan, he continued: “In your own Desert Island Discs you chose The Beatles and Stevie Wonder. Now, Stevie Wonder made a speech to the UN last week talking about the growth of fascism – I’m sure you still love his music.
“Nobody ever told John Lennon to shut up, but I think people who vote Donald Trump are entrenched in that belief system regardless of what Taylor Swift says. I don’t think that her comments will embolden people in any way.
“The key thing is that she’s an artist and music is the most popular art-form. Nobody would have said to Picasso, ‘Don’t paint Guernica, stick to vases.”
At another point in the conversation, Morgan argued that it was ‘the Twitter mob’ that swayed Swift and pushed her to speak out against the democrats.
“Taylor Swift is an artist. It’s the job of an artist to hold a mirror up to society, especially in this day and age when people in the journalism profession aren’t doing their job. They expect impartiality, not of musicians but of journalists. So when we see people like yourself fawning over Donald Trump, then we feel the need to stand up and say something.”
Morgan then ended the debate by saying “it’s my show” and closing discussion down.
“Big up Good Morning Britain for having me on the show and Susanna Reid for having the good grace to shake my hand hand afterwards,” McClure then write on Twitter, “unlike her co host who refused because I made him look silly.”
Swift remained famously apolitical in recent years – and faced criticism for not speaking out against Donald Trump’s election in 2016.
“In the past I’ve been reluctant to publicly voice my political opinions, but due to several events in my life and in the world in the past two years, I feel very differently about that now,” Swift wrote on Instagram as she urged her young fans to register and vote.
“I always have and always will cast my vote based on which candidate will protect and fight for the human rights I believe we all deserve in this country. I believe in the fight for LGBTQ rights, and that any form of discrimination based on sexual orientation or gender is WRONG. I believe that the systemic racism we still see in this country towards people of color is terrifying, sickening and prevalent.”
She continued: “I cannot vote for someone who will not be willing to fight for dignity for ALL Americans, no matter their skin color, gender or who they love.”
Many among the right-wing then took online to voice their anger at Swift.
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