The National’s Matt Berninger: ‘performing is right on the edge of exhilarating and humiliating’

The National man and Chvrches Lauren Mayberry compare notes on performing live and experiencing fame

The National‘s Matt Berninger has told Chvrches Lauren Mayberry “performing is right on the edge of exhilarating and humiliating,” as the two discussed playing live, fame and feelings in interview.

Mayberry and Berninger were exchanging tales as part of Live Nations’ ‘Taleswappers’, following their live collaboration on The National’s ‘I Need My Girl’.

Talking of making it on stage, Berninger references Mick Jagger, and says: “He didn’t care. I think it’s confidence, or fake confidence. There’s no way to be totally confident up there. I don’t know how a human being would be confident elevated 15 or 20ft off the ground with everyone looking at you.”

Mayberry responds by comparing her live performances to the studio, saying that the chance to get things right in recorded format made mistakes feel like she’d “totally fucked up,” and she “had to stop beating herself up about it. If something weird or unusual happens, you remember that, in a good way.”

Berninger recalls an early performance at SXSW festival, where he made a mistake and jumped ahead an entire song on the setlist, thinking the band had made a mess of the music. “I was screaming my head off to ‘Available,'”, he recalls, “and they were playing a totally different song. I was singing those lyrics to a drum beat. We didn’t get signed”.

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Berninger describes his level of fame as “a nice ego boost” when people recognise him out and about once a month, while Mayberry agrees that she doesn’t really see her band as famous.

A nice cherry on the top of the pair’s interview sees Mayberry recall mopping floors whilst listening to The National’s ‘High Violet’ and working in a cafe. Watch the pair share the nine-minute chat via YouTube, below:

Despite not having released a new LP since 2013s ‘Trouble Will Find Me’, The National recently revealed they won’t be releasing a new album in 2016. They did recently showcase a new track ‘Roman Candle‘.

Chvrches released ‘Every Open Eye’ in September, with Mayberry recently suggesting every member of the band will eventually go solo. There are two 2016 UK dates on the horizon, as follows:

London, Royal Albert Hall (March 31)
Glasgow, The SSE Hydro (April 2)