The National to be featured by a new 14-episode podcast about ‘Boxer’

"Showered and blue-blazered"

Members of The National will feature on a new podcast that promises a deep-dive into the band’s breakthrough 2007 album ‘Boxer’.

The new, 14-episode podcast series, which is titled Coffee & Flowers, launches this Monday (March 4) and features exclusive interviews with the band’s Matt Berninger and Aaron Dessner.

The first season of the podcast will analyse one track per episode, with all 14 episodes set to launch on the same day. There are also plans to delve into a different National album with each following season.


Podcast hosts Christopher Hooton and David Rapson will guide listeners through seven hours of audio about ‘Boxer’ when Coffee & Flowers debuts next week. A press release states that the pair will dissect the band’s breakthrough record and “discuss the weighty topics uncovered, helped along the way by frontman Matt Berninger, guitarist Aaron Dessner and other people from The National’s universe.”

The release continues: “Integral to that is Carin Besser – Berninger’s wife, lyrical collaborator and the ‘Carin at the Liquor Store’ namesake – who speaks about her role in the band publicly for the first time.”

Matt Berninger of The National performs during weekend two of the ACL Music Festival at Zilker Park in Austin on October 12, 2018

Hooton told NME: “This band means more to its fans than perhaps any other, and has helped me and my dear friend and co-host of the podcast David through some tough times – we wanted to explore what makes them so special here. The band have been incredibly supportive with this passion project of ours, helping us any way they can.

“Fans can expect to learn about the backdrop to the band’s treasured album ‘Boxer’, which was kind of a make-it-or-break-it record as the band tried to hold down 9-5s in NYC. Frontman Matt Berninger and guitarist Aaron Dessner guide us through the lyrics and music respectively, and David and I analyse these elements and chew over the topics that the songs probe: depression, anxiety, obsession, love, white-collar work, strained friendship and much more.”


Meanwhile, The National have reportedly finished recording their new album, which will be the follow up to 2017’s ‘Sleep Well Beast’.

The news comes after Worlds End, the management company of the band’s longtime producer Peter Katis, appeared to confirm that Katis had finished mixing the record earlier this month in a now-deleted news release on their website.

Katis has worked on the majority of The National’s records since their second album, 2003’s ‘Sad Songs for Dirty Lovers.’ His work has featured on ‘Cherry Tree’ (2004), ‘Alligator’ (2005), ‘Boxer’ (2007), ‘High Violet’ (2010) and ‘Trouble Will Find Me’ (2013).


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